Lunch Hours 001 – GOALS

Lunch Hours 001 – GOALS


Welcome to Lunch Hours. A new series we’re booting off wherein we chat complete waffle to people during their lunch hours. You may think this segment was conducted during lunch hours to give it a tenuously thematical link to our cookery show, chef hatted logo and general foody oeuvre; You’re more than entitled to this opinion. But it is wrong. We conduct this feature during lunch hours because these days underground music pays shitter than the average Nike sweatshop and as a result the majority of us have to do mind-numbing day jobs from which we are only allowed a mere 60 minutes of blissful escape each working day.

We decided to spend our first ever Lunch Hour chatting with Jon1st and EAN who, alongside Will LV, make up the collective crew GOALS who have just self released a rather sublime beat / self-help tape aptly entitled GOALS 001. The release takes in a wealth of beat orientated sonic booty, ranging from some classic head bopping, boom-bap typ shit to some slow/fast, frenetic, footworking, squiggly psychedelic type shit to the sort of vocal shit you might find on a workout DVD by a Celebrity Big Brother washout… You really won’t find another tape quite like it.

You can purchase that marvellous shit HERE: http://bit.ly/23IM4eF

Bayfield:
Right, let’s start with the intros as I’m doing this on my lunchbreak from editing a brostep video and have only had limited research time (ie. I’ve just had a quick look at your Facebook page)

Who are GOALS? What do GOALS represent? Do GOALS rate the drums of Phil Collins?

EAN:
Goals is Jon1st, EAN and Will LV. It represents a way of farming out unused beats no one liked.

Jon1st:
I like Phil Collins.

EAN:
I like his drums better than I like his politics.

Bayfield:
I liked pretty much all the beats on the tape actually. Ridiculously strong set… Phil Collins strong you might say. Phil Collins drums strong, not politics strong that is. Production wise how do you work that? Between the three of you it’s a fairly broad range of musical styles, but the result is extremely coherent. It doesn’t just feel like twenty random beats bolted together for the sake of a tape. Do you all get together to produce as a crew in IRL or is it a more online collaborative thing?

EAN:
Cheers mate.

Jon1st:
Thanks! It’s a mixture of both those things. We all write beats individually and bring them to sessions. One of us might take one of those tracks and add to it, then pass it to another member and they’ll do their thing until we’re all happy. We also write tunes from scratch as a group in real life. We live in different areas, I’m up in the midlands, Will’s from South London and EAN is from East and is allergic to anywhere below the river so it can be difficult meeting up regularly, so we find that a combination of working on beats separately and together is a good mix for us.

EAN:
East London that is.

Bayfield:
Ah bugger. I’m from Great Yarmouth (East Coast) was naively hoping it might have spawned another creative I could lament being stuck in central London with.

EAN:
Sorry mate.

Bayfield:
So was the plan to assemble a tape’s worth of beats then or did that just fall out of the sessions?

Jon1st:
I think it was always the plan to have enough to put on a cassette, right EAN? We ended up making more than that but we thought 40 minutes was a good length for this project?

EAN:
Yeah we first started ‘cos me and Will had stuff that we didn’t know what to do with, then Will asked Jon (that’s right innit Jon?) so then we just started meeting up every now and again.

Jon1st:
Aye that’s right!

EAN:
The cassette thing was a lot vaguer than maybe we made it seem… but yeah I think we just kept going until we had something that was a good length and sounded kinda finished.

Bayfield:
Yeah I like a good album project / tape me. (I personally think) it’s nice to have things that are contained and thematically whole. I think a lot gets lost these days in between being able to delete (digital) tracks from albums and this endless obsession with playlists and curation… Self-curation is nice but I think, when the artist has a specific idea, it can be a little destructive in terms of appreciating the thing properly… I’d just like to note at this stage as much as the previous statement might infer otherwise I’m not an art school wanker. I drink at Wetherspoons also.

EAN:
Hey man they do good food… and cheap coffee.

Bayfield:
They do. Steak club on a Tuesday won’t let you down.

EAN:
Aye. So yep the theme thing came from looking for samples; we had a couple of bits then it seemed to sorta coalesce into a meaningful whole… as it were. We just tried to make each other laugh: with more and more ridiculous sounding samples.

Bayfield:
I was going to mention the samples as I’m really rating them. They give the tape a resolutely English-ness.

EAN:
Nice one, yeah I think we all share a very similar dry sarcastic sense of humour… and the self-help thing was the funniest: the idea of a hopeless hip-hop self-help tape.

Bayfield:
Yeah it grates nicely against your typical hip-hop standpoint of showing off endlessly about success and monetary worth. Do you plan to take GOALS and your cynical self-help classes to the people of Great Britain (and beyond) in the near future? I think a live show featuring self-help videos behind the decks and guest motivational speaker MCs would go down a treat.

EAN:
Hahaha. We could get the crowd to do team building exercises.

Bayfield:
Can we make this happen?

Jon1st:
Assault courses. We need assault courses. GOALS lifestyle packages, celebratory Spa days? … Let’s make it a goal gets coat

EAN:
Ok so Jon’s out the band.

Jon1st:
It was fun while it lasted.

EAN:
Feels bad man.

Bayfield:
No I think a “fully immersive club experience” (we don’t call them club nights or parties in the uber cool future of 2016) would really work: The punters have to get into group of around ten – fifteen: One goes to the bar, one goes to find a dealer and the others have to build a bridge that can carry the weight of the whole group using newspaper and sticky-back plastic whilst panicking about the stock options and impending recession. GOALS (sans the recently fired Jon) to soundtrack live. Best group at the end leaves club with certificate and sense of self-worth.

EAN:
Man I’d have them all lying down with their eyes closed repeating “not a worry in the world”.

Jon1st:
I think them leaving with a sense of confusion is probably the GOALS way.

EAN:
Will says he’s just at baggage reclaim.

Jon1st:
Will’s being a superstar DJ in Brazil this week…though I reckon it’s just a cover for a fancy hat buying trip.

Bayfield:
Full time job in music / exotic hat buying. What more could he want?

EAN:
Actually he works on a cruise ship calling bingo.

Bayfield:
Aside from elaborate Brazilian hats is there a longer term goal (<< IN THERE!!) for GOALS? Full album? working with vocalists? Buying Cadillacs?

EAN:
Dunno I think we’re not gonna think too hard about it.

Jon1st:
We’re going to be doing more music for sure, but , like EAN says, not thinking too hard on what the next project will be.

EAN:
We’ll do more but just take it as it comes so it remains fun… that’s about right innit jon?

Jon1st:
Yeah! We each have solo projects too, so GOALS has to work around those. GOALS is a group of friends meeting up to make something different from what we usually make and having fun every so often: have a cuppa, check out new gifs, make beats. Do you have any goals Matthew?

There’s a long, probably pregnant pause here whilst I frantically attempt to type a wafty and ethereal list of my futile hopes and dreams

EAN:
He’s having to think about this.

Jon1st:
Man’s gotta lotta goals

Bayfield:
Well currently I need a piss and I also have some prawns in the microwave… To be fair though these are very much short term goals. Long term I’d quite like put out music that doesn’t have its head up its arse, make ridiculous physical products to accompany said music and hopefully not have to be a cog in the machines of other people’s money grabbing dreams… I’d also really like to go to the pub with Sean Bean. What tea do you boys rep when you create? I naturally assume you drink tea when creating. I’m a Yorkshire Gold man.

EAN:
Yorkshire Gold’s good. I’m a leave the bag in type.

Jon1st:
Anything that helps me kick my energy drink habit. Good goals by the way.

EAN:
But Sean Bean’ll be dead before you finish the last drink.

Bayfield:
That’s fine by me. One pint with Sean in the Steel City will do me. Perhaps I can be like the Ferryman of the River Styxx and help him on his way… Although he’ll have to have chocolate coins on his eyes instead of real ones as times is hard out here.

EAN:
Hahaha…. poor Sean he never makes it to the end!

Bayfield:
Moving on to more positive pastures than the always existentialist casting of Sean Bean it does seem like a bit of a nice time in the world of hip-hop / beats right now. Between things like the 20/20 nights and labels like Astral Black there’s a lot going on beyond just crusty boom-bap and golden era samples. They kind of feel like they’ve been stuck in stasis for about 2 decades.

Jon1st:
I think the diversity and growth of instrumental hip hop / beats is unfairly looked over a bit. It has such a rich history and hasn’t really stopped evolving. As well as boom bap and the various more common club styles there’s a clear continuum of left of centre instrumental beats that can be traced from early Ninja Tune/Mowax/Bully Records releases, to people like Prefuse 73, Machinedrum, Dabrye and Dilla to the LA beats scene, to what was happening in Europe with people like Hudmo, Rustie, Debruit, Dorian Concept etc through to the slowfast/footwork influenced sound to the half time movement at the moment. I’m having to abbreviate that lineage quite a bit and could talk about it for ages but that’s a book waiting to happen (nudge nudge Laurent Fintoni). Basically I think there’s always been interesting stuff happening in beats for a good 25 years + and it’s an area of music I’m really passionate about.

20/20 and Astral Black are great labels/nights by the way. I’m honoured to be involved in the former and to have played at the latter last year too.

Bayfield:
Yep I’d have to agree with that. I think to a degree people mistake “beats” a lot of the time as representing people just aimlessly scratching and chin-stroking over jazz loops.

Jon1st:
The downside of ‘beats’ being such a broad term is that I think a lot of it can get slept on. I think most producers call what they make beats, regardless of the genre. So it can have different meanings to different people, which may be a reason for it going under the radar in the wider dance music community. Oh and for the record boom bap is dope too 😉

Bayfield:
Yep I think it’s one of those paradoxical ones in that respect. It’s such a broad term that it never really gets tarnished / becomes a dirty word as a result of prevailing trends & commercial attention (see: dubstep, trap etc) but at the same time because it’s so difficult to quantify the non-scholarly, chin stroking types never really seem to have the patience to dig around in it. Boom-bap is phenomenal when it’s done right… Not unlike bacon baps. Which also bang (unless made with ketchup which can get tae fuck)

Jon1st:
Yep that’s it, because it’s so broad a term, the musical output is diverse and it’s trickier to define what the traits are other than it being left of centre instrumental hip hop.

EAN:
Just as a disclaimer I don’t really know much about the scenes you’re talking about, I’ve always listened to hip hop and enjoyed making it but it’s not really my background.

Bayfield:
What’s your background EAN? I remember the Darknet bit on Cosmic Bridge which was more in that footwork / slowfast camp. Where did you start out?

EAN:
As far as making beats / being producer, I started making jungle and D&B, then grime and dubstep. I’m an engineer so I recorded / made a lot of stuff for DJs back in the day.

Bayfield:
Ah ok I see, that’s interesting. Yeah there was a few bits on the GOALS tape like Wingsuit (I think it was called) that reminded me more of the dubstep vibe. There was a bit of a dancehall sounding thing too which was rather fun.

EAN:
Haha yeah wingsuit I made in about 10mins for them lot to fuck with but they just went with it as it was… I also did a whole bunch of stuff as Various Production, but that finished in about 2009.

Bayfield:
Oh shit the bed I never knew that was you. Fucking love that first record.

EAN:
Cheers. It was just all the stuff up to about 2009 then I left.

Bayfield:
World Is Gone was me fave.

EAN:
Nice one mate yeah that was me.

Bayfield:
That leads us back to the bit about stagnating scenes nicely ahaha… Handbags.

EAN:
Hah, yeah.

Bayfield:
So essentially between all three component parts (before Jon got fired) GOALS pretty much spans the entire of underground / electronic music genre wise? What with Will LV doing the funky thing and the more afrobeat sounds like Road To Essaouira and whatnot.

EAN:
It was sad to see Jon go but he had it coming…

Jon1st:
Yeah, LV have made hip hop, beats, dubstep, dub, footwork, jungle, various forms of house, all sorts.

Bayfield:
They also sung the hook on Coolio’s Gangsta’s Paradise too which I thought was just nuts.

Jon1st:
EAN’s in a successful folk band too.

EAN:
Yeah theres two words you don’t see together much

Bayfield:
What folk band is EAN in?

EAN:
We’re called Stick in the Wheel. The singer Nic used to sing with me when were doing Various

Bayfield:
Haha, was literally about to mention that. It was the folky element that first drew me into Various actually. I got into dubstep the same way: through that Kode9 remix of James Yorkston. I actually thought there might be a whole scene of underground folkstep… EAN are you sure you’re not from Norwich mate?

EAN:
Nah, I’ve recorded in Norwich a few times though.

Bayfield:
Did you pick up some Colman’s Mustard and Kettle Crisps whilst you were there? I’d say they are our (Norfolk’s) two crowning glories. Possibly only glories… Oh and Myleene Klass.

EAN:
Hey man Colman’s is the only mustard.

Bayfield:
YES. That’s great I’m going to show that to Jack Sparrow. He and I have been clashing mustard for time. He reckons Yorkshire do it better.

EAN:
I’d never even seen any other sort of mustard until a few years back.

Bayfield:
Forsake all others.

EAN:
It’s how we do in the East End.

Bayfield:
Gunfingers

EAN:
Dollar sign emoji

Jon1st:
Just as a disclaimer I don’t really know much about the mustard scenes you’re talking about, I’ve always enjoyed eating it but it’s not really my background.

Bayfield:
There’s a reason GOALS gave you the boot Jon. Right anyway gang afraid I’m gonna have to dip in a minute as this lunch hour is now clocking in at a solid… more than an hour… Plus my prawns have been in the microwave for three winters (I think they are fucked)

To round up what would you like to say to encapsulate both the GOALS ethos and your fabulous new beat tape GOALS 001?

Jon1st:
Free chicken for all

EAN:
ALL GOALS ALL THE TIME #NOFEELS… or summat.

Don’t forget if you’ve managed to read all the way to the bottom of this article which is more than 140 characters long and didn’t feature an endlessly looping animation of a cat wearing a traffic cone you can reward yourself (and everyone who took part in the interview) by reposting it on your dreary social media feeds and also by purchasing GOALS 001 HERE: http://bit.ly/23IM4eF